Curse

Ultimate Warrior · Jun 28, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Hi, im a rit/me and I need a build to beat my dopple... any suggestions?

JoeKnowMo · Jun 28, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58

There are several ways to beat the Doppelganger. You may want to look in the Mesmer thread for other ideas.

Do NOT take any healing spells/skills along.

Take Soul Twising, Clumsiness, Conjure Phantasm, Pain, Bloodsong, Shadowsong, Mantra of Persistence, Dissonance.

Put most of your attribute points in Communing, Illusion, and Inspiration in that order.

Before you enter the battle with the Doppleganger, cast Pain. Then use Soul Twisting on Pain. Wait till Pain recharges. And only then enter the battle.

As soon as you enter the battle, cast Dissonance, Mantra of Persistence, Clumsiness, Conjure Phantasm, Pain, Bloodsong, Shadowsong. Then run around and dodge. Don't attack, since u will likely have Clumsiness on you. Recast Clumsiness and Conjure Phantasm as necessary. Recast Dissonance when it dies.

The Doppelganger should die fast without any heals.

Other options are to take backfire with Archane echo/Echo. Cast Archane Echo before battle. Then enter the battle and cast backfire, followed by another as soon as it expires. Take a bunch of other spells for the doppel to use, so that backfire triggers a lot. Spells like empathy, energy tap, etc.

You will usually win a battle to the death when no heals are involved if you prepare yourself before entering the battle.

Shiraishi · Jun 28, 2006, 08:34 AM // 08:34

The easiest way that I've found to defeat the doppleganger is to just use Vengeful Weapon. Empty your skill bar and bring only that skill, and pump as many attribute points into Restoration as you can.
At the start of the battle, get up close to him. Then just spam Vengeful Weapon until you win.

Pick Me · Jun 28, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

I've posted this method for the mesmer a few times now.

Here is a different approach (stat wise only):
Domination: Max
Inspiration: Rest
Illusion: Max

Empathy
Spirit of Failure
Distortion (optional)
Physical Resistance (optional)
Illusionary Weakness
Signet of Capture/Union
Res Signet/Shelter
Flesh Of My Flesh

Cast Illusionary Weakness before you touch the first stone. Wait until you are at full health, then touch the last stone. Cast Empathy then Spirit of Failure. Use Distortion or Physical Resistance and stand there.

Don't attack. Empathy will kill it. Ilusionary weakness is your only healing and when the doppleganger uses it, there goes some of its life. Without any non-attacking period, it will never gain any health.

Channelling way:

Gaze from Beyond
Lamentation
Painful Bond
Spirit Rift
Mighty was Vorizon
Blind was Mingson
Lively was Naomei
Flesh Of My Flesh

Cast Mighty Was Vorizon and then keep casting Spirit Rift. When it does, move a way. The Doppleganger won't move from its spot, it will keep attacking you. You have no healing, so watch yourself. When it uses the hold item spells, drop yours and attack. It can't attack while it holds anything.

Hope this helps.

floppinghog · Jun 29, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

lol you people are cough *nuts* the easiest, fastest possible =

backfire, empathy, vengeful weapon

cast them in that order, and if he casts backfire on you, you dont cast spells (obviously) and if he casts empathy on you, you dont attack anymore (obviously) other wise you will kill him within about 10 seconds if not faster (if i really cared how fast it was -whatever works best)

if i have to tell you how to put your attributes for this, you are stupid as hell and shouldn't be playing this game - how did you get to desert ? (probably got ran) yawn

ender6 · Jun 29, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by floppinghog

if i have to tell you how to put your attributes for this, you are stupid as hell and shouldn't be playing this game - how did you get to desert ? (probably got ran) yawn

Speaking of supid....

Where did this hostility come from? The point of posting here is to help people out with constructive input, not to tout your arrogance. Congrats at being l33t when it comes to killing your doppleganger

Dawn Stormborn · Jun 30, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

I beat the doppleganger with this strategy:

1 dissonance
2 pain
3 spirit burn
4 spirit rift
5 restoration
6 soothing
7 recuperation
8 preservation

Similar to ranger ascension, spirit 5-8 are useless (I had my restoration at 1). Start with dissonance, which interrupts everything else he does. I put down pain and then 3-4 as they recharged and it wasn't even close.

Tainek · Jul 01, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Vengeful Was Ashes
Archane Echo
Vengeful weapon
Physical Resistance
Channeling

Cast Arch Echo-ashes first and keep the ashes up in the chain, then spam vengeful when ready, (oh and by the way, he will hit you in melee with the ashes, stand next to him for fastest results

Seems like somebody needs more hugs floppinghog

yo home boi · Jul 01, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

16 Communing
10 Restoration
11 Spawning
Then all the Rest on Channeling

Binding chains...
Spirt Transfer
Ritural Lord
Boon of Creation
Dissonance
Shadowsong
Painful bond
Bloodsong

First Cast Binding Chains so he cant attack...
Cast Boon of Creation
Cast Rt Lord
Then Set up Shadowsong
Set up Bloodsong
Set up Dissonance
Then cast painful bond on him...

Repeat...

I use the on guildie Warriors all the time lol

Cory M · Jul 03, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

here's what i did. Archane Echo-> Vengeful Was Khanhei->Echoes VwK->Empathy+constant Vengeful Weapon :-D

aliencowbaby · Jul 09, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

or since ritualist is from cantha another approach (yes i know its stupid but it does depend on the person) if u seriously feel the need to do ascension get to the point in Cantha where u do the "Closer to the Stars" beat the mish pay 500g....switch to monk....take a staff and healing breeze.....easy win again it depends on how far u were in the game on the cantha side. <please flame here>
JW

The Primeval King · Jul 11, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

I just brought item spells and rituals that take a few seconds to cast, like Shelter. He will spend all of his time casting the spells while you just wand him to death.

Ark Claw · Jul 11, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

take these skills:

Cruel was Daoshen
Channeled Strike
Spirit Rift

Destruction

Soothing
EarthBind

Channeling Magic 12 (or 12+1,+2 or +3...no matter)
other points don't matter...

use Destruction, then Cruel and then spam Channeled and Spirit Rift while dopple is using Binding Rituals... he will die in few seconds.

Ah, remember to drop ashes when his hp are low

p.s. sorry for my bad english